tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5554498168264477884.post5150349460728253149..comments2023-09-26T03:53:17.142-04:00Comments on Pentimento: Opposite Sides of the Same Cultural CoinPentimentohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17161146891505294679noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5554498168264477884.post-84936119952907155932012-11-14T20:31:16.382-05:002012-11-14T20:31:16.382-05:00The girls in my sort of happy-nerd group (i.e., no...The girls in my sort of happy-nerd group (i.e., not asocial, but not caught up in much social drama either) at a Catholic girls' high school -- not one that was a feeder for Christendom or Steubenville, if you get my drift (isn't that an obnoxious expression?) -- didn't gossip about each other's sex lives and I strongly suspect we didn't have any, though I wasn't close enough friends with most of them to hear about it on a confidential basis. But after high school, even among those who attended Catholic colleges, fornication, contraception, and cohabitation don't seem to me to have been significantly less common than you'd expect from the college-attending-mostly-graduating middle class demographic at large. Still, as someone who has been "studying" this sort of thing my whole life -- people and how their ideas about the really big things like religion and sex affect everything else -- I feel like I can only identify really huge trends (orthodox Catholicism and its teachings on sex being unpopular) and individual variations. It can be surprising whose parents still take issue w/cohabitation before marriage even when they didn't do anything to crack down on teenage sex, etc.... all this to say I read the article and was tempted to say, "Oh, that would explain her, and her, and her," but I'm not sure any of those people would fit more neatly into the description than I would into a "cradle Catholic ... but raised in the '80s and '90s!" or "my parents were brought up pre-VII and that made me different from my peers" or whatever category.ex-new yorkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5554498168264477884.post-63372378427218421182012-11-14T09:03:29.715-05:002012-11-14T09:03:29.715-05:00Good piece. I grew up in an upper middle class to...Good piece. I grew up in an upper middle class town and basically, nobody had a child out of wedlock. I knew of one girl who got pregnant and she virtually disappeared. Among my high school friends who were culturally Jewish, all of them were put on the Pill by their mothers as teenagers (regardless if they were in a relationship or not), to prevent them from getting pregnant which would therefore ruin the pursuit of their education, ie professional degrees. We Catholic girls disdained the Pill back then, but I'm not sure we fared much better than my Jewish friends. We all came out damaged by the culture.JMBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02542004362101344466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5554498168264477884.post-56807966305539769182012-11-13T17:43:13.340-05:002012-11-13T17:43:13.340-05:00Excellent article! This totally squares with what...Excellent article! This totally squares with what I've seen, starting out adult life as a freshman at Georgetown, living the hedonist lifestyle, and reverting to the Catholic faith after declining to pay the high price demanded on the path to bourgeois respectability. Thanks!Robin E.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03970907580484799535noreply@blogger.com